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Your team ALWAYS has the right to take a walkover win - 30 minutes for match no-show and 10 minutes for player no-show. Although deaths in immediate family, car accidents, or natural disasters are regrettable and unforeseeable, the substitute rule exists for a reason. We expect teams to exercise their best sportsmanship when it comes to being flexible, but there have been standardized times for six weeks - teams who follow those rules will take priority over those who do not.

My formal apologies to Ryerson. I misinterpreted the situation entirely, and as a result probably inappropriately offended several players. Our condolences to Ryerson's player, who was not by any means lying about his situation.

Comments (21)

OCC.Sunyveil

to be fair, I don't think they were lying. There was a misconception about who had a dead grandfather and who couldn't play because he was in the library doing homework.

Nevertheless, I strongly recommend the 5th set in the series

#1
3/22/10 11:25 AM
OCC.Sunyveil

In any case, I was told by Crescentia that we had to reschedule, which in the case of a dead relative would be understandable, but not so for schoolwork.

#2
3/22/10 11:28 AM
UVic_HazrD

The thing is, some teams might not have enough players to substitute.

#3
3/22/10 12:41 PM
DarthThienAn

If you're now saying there was may have been a misconception, then maybe you should get your facts straight before complaining? You implied pretty heavily that it was the same player - if it was the same player, then Ryerson is bad for lying and has been penalized accordingly. If you're throwing around white lies in hopes of getting a score change, then you're just as bad as them. Don't say one thing and then soft dodge it later when it becomes a bigger deal.

While it's true that crescentia was mistaken in forcing the reschedule - I see nothing wrong with the fact that it was played. A lack of reschedule is usually only because the problem is unresolvable (lag issues), or neither player can meet at a mutually convenient time. To not reschedule simply because you would rather have the easy win by forfeit is bm, and while we allow it because this is a competitive league, we discourage it strongly.

#4
3/22/10 12:47 PM
d3_crescentia

As a division admin I consulted with Xeris to try and get this situation sorted out, under the assumption that Ryerson's player was away due to a legitimate family emergency - and also without asking if there were substitutes available. After the rescheduled match was played, the story began to unfold - I was told it was due to "work," not a death in the family; and soon after I discovered it was apparently due to schoolwork, not a job conflict as I had thought.

Some pretty bad communication going on there, and I acknowledge my part in it for not getting all of the facts on the situation before making a judgment.

#5
3/22/10 2:10 PM
OCC.Sunyveil

We didn't know that this player wasn't the one with the family emergency until the game played out.

Don't accuse me of lying Mark, I didn't say anything that was untrue or otherwise skew what happened in our favor. Edit: Intentionally anyway, reading over the email again I can see how it would have been misinterpreted without having actually seen the conversation.

In any case, I never asserted that Ryerson's players had been lying.

#6
3/22/10 3:23 PM
OCC.Sunyveil

And FYI, the reschedule is very inconvenient on our team. I was up for an hour dealing with it; personally I have an 8 am class on Mondays and it's midterms week. That's like saying rejecting a request to play the match at 2 am Tuesday morning against a weak team is bm because it's taking an easy win.

I usually have no problems with reschedules as long as they are given well ahead of time.

#7
3/22/10 3:28 PM
hazelynut

@Dayv,

Yeah, I reread your email and realized there were two completely different readings to it. Bad communication on all parts, shouldn't have happened but did.

#8
3/22/10 3:30 PM
reket1990

This is all for good fun. In my opinion, its no fun beating a good school (like UCSD) by going...9:59...10! Yay win! xD

You get my point...haha.

#9
3/23/10 1:05 AM
aikepah

Each division

#10
3/24/10 12:07 PM
DarthThienAn

Yeah... school's don't really seem to be following that, huh. zzz.

#11
3/24/10 12:46 PM